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Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 23:47
by rray
There are some approaches that might do it like freezing the PC, then sticking the particles to the mesh, or maybe enveloping the point cloud so it deforms along with the body. You'd have to link the rotation lookup parameter to the particle rotation somehow in either case. TBH I think out of lazyness I would go with rendermapping for that one (Sound unadventurous I know x_x )

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 02 Jan 2013, 15:51
by Pooby
I had a proper go with this shader, and I have to say, its brilliant. Thanks for making it.
I've been fiddling around with it all morning doing trees and all sorts with ease. If I had one request it would be to be able to control the parameters of each sample with a weight map. so, say you were doing a tree, you could make the texture finer and less intense on small branches, but you can kind of do that now by mixing 2 shaders.
I did a video overview of the use of it.



Edited by gustavoeb: use vim tag :smile:

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 03 Jan 2013, 00:37
by rray
Chuffed to see! Keep up your tutorials too they are great.
Pooby wrote:If I had one request it would be to be able to control the parameters of each sample with a weight map. so, say you were doing a tree, you could make the texture finer and less intense on small branches
The shader is completely build out of factory nodes, to use a weightmap to control some parts of it like the texture scale or offset, you can edit the compound and expose these parameters for texturing. But for blending two textures the only option is probably using 2 shaders like you did.

This scene shows how to use another ice parameter on the point cloud that is controling the scale: DemoProjectTextureInstancing3.zip.

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 21:33
by rray
Updated ..... This new version can break up the cell borders.

Btw, for rendermapping is there an aliasing setting somewhere like in the render options ?
or is the supersampling the only option to increase quality?

Download is on first page

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Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 23:01
by Pooby
Great thanks. I look forward to trying that out. I find it amazing how the borders don't notice much, as in this example showing the scaling by weightmap, that I didnt intially think was possible, but is...
https://vimeo.com/56762083
But having a way of blurring them borders will be even better.

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 23:33
by rray
Oh that worked really well.
I didn't think it would because I was texturing the scale of the cell shader a while ago, and that produced weird smearing along the gradients. Never tried it with the texture instance shader for that reason.

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 13:29
by rray
Updated .. V1.4 allows separate X and Y scaling, also added a few comments in the compound so it's easier to get into the inner workings


(an earlier 1.3 update had X & Y scaling too, but had some problems with shearing effects when rotating stretched textures)

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 19:00
by kykeon
Hi there,
first of all, what a nice tool we have there! Many thanks to Reinhard Claus.

My question is about using the texture's alpha to avoid "square" overlapping. I would like to make a snake skin, and the look has to be very regular obviously...

Does anyone achieve to use the alpha, or did I miss something somewhere?

Many thanks!

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 19:32
by rray
Hi & you're welcome!
I realize this would be cool, am afraid though that's not possible because of limitations that the "point cloud lookup" node has which is used inside the compound. Problem with that is that it can only look up attributes like "position" from one particle at a time. Actually it does multiple but this results in a mash up of attributes which makes it impossible to extract the position of multiple particles.
Maybe there's some other way to do that which I've not discovered yet.

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 22 Jan 2013, 22:21
by kykeon
Thank you.
I realize it will not feet my needs for making a snake skin, even with the abilty of using the alpha. Too bad, because it was theoricaly a good way to avoid streching of the scales when part of the body inflate... As you said, I can't find a way to get the direction for overlapping properly one scale after another. As we can see here:
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Also I realize there is probably no way to get the color attribute to change colors of the scales to create this kind of pattern
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for example.

I will probably do it with a "feather" particle system or may be by textures dependings of the look the director is looking for.
Any ways, I will definitly use it in a way or another for another purpose, the bark Paul Smith did for exemple or may be his gravel simulation.

Many thanks! Cheers.

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 30 Apr 2013, 02:20
by rray
kykeon I hope you'll find a good use. Cheers!

There's an update (first post of this thread/rray.de) . V1.5 adds Paul's idea, the ability to read the texture offset from an ICE attribute (similar to what is done with the rotation). Previous method didn't work well with animation. Be warned not tested much yet %-(

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 30 Apr 2013, 22:15
by Pooby
https://vimeo.com/65171697

thanks for the update

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 18:51
by Pancho
How do you create a "shared Material"?. I just assign the same texture once to the cloud and once to the mesh. On reload the information transfer seems to be broken and the preview doesn't look right. So, how do I do this correctly?

Cheers

P.S.: I use the instancer on a very large mesh. What is strange is that the bump map (also instanced) displaces the color texture. So you don't get only the bump illusion, but also a distoreted texture. Bump map value is about 100 in the bump map node. Is there a way to avoid this?

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 07 Jun 2013, 20:31
by Pancho
O.k., after some initial errors I get it to work. What still bothers me is that the bump map screws up the color map. Is there anything one can do about it?

The color map seems to be displaced so it ends up grainy, like sand. The inital map is not any more recognizable. The bump amount mini- or maximizes this effect. This should definitely not happen.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Re: Texture Instancing Compound

Posted: 09 Jun 2013, 18:26
by rray
I'm lost. Are you using a bump map setup like Paul does in his tex instancer videos or a different one? Best would probably if I had the scene to look at.