Anti-Autodesk Strategies

[luceric]

I think bellsey is arguing that people in the field gave it their best shot. That's all fine and noble of them, but the focus of the marketing was on the Suite. This is not you misunderstanding or misappreciating the marketing.

[McNistor]

OK, so who is then the moron or the morons at Adsk that doesn't know apparently what piece of tech Softimage is? Don't you people talk to each other in there? What the hell do devs and upper management talk in meetings?
Uh... why am I bothering?!

[xsi_fanatic]

My view is that anything that is not financial in nature will not change AD's mind about SI. Therefore I suggest the following:

Contact Autodesk AND your retailer DIRECTLY. Chances are the people who matter never look here and don't care unless they hear from a lot of people.

Let them know how much you hate their decision. Tell them that you will NEVER buy Autodesk again and that you will go WAY out of your way to dissuade anyone else from purchasing AD (in a legal fashion of course).

Let them know that by doing this they've created a slew of enemies that are determined to really damage their bottom line and ruin future sales at every chance on ANY of their products. For example, where I work now, I'll be in the position to change over 100 seats of Inventor to a competitor during our next evaluation. Say goodbye to that AD! Let them know this decision IS going to cost them (in the only area they care about). Let them know that if they think you're going to buy Max or Maya, think again.

In short, do your part to reduce their sales and let them know that you will continue indefinitely.

Just my point of view on what might work. If not it will still be fun and slightly satisfying. Other ideas most welcome

Go for SolidWorks or Catia. The company has built a strong reputation for being genuinely innovative by giving a rich end user experience through their products, that works better for the interest of your clients. It's the Softimage of the CAD / engineering prototype solutions.

[jamination]

I can help but think there are bean counters at autodesk that know just about how many people will be forced into choosing another autodesk product and how many will move on to other DDC companies, and before they made the decision to can XSI, there were perfectly ok with those numbers. We are a small group of users in the large autodesk cog, and truth be told we just don't matter, if we did this never would have happened. They'll get new users, we can be replaced.

[Hirazi Blue]

The general mood from our resident AD employees would seem to be: we did what we could & we did nothing wrong. And that may be true from their own perspective. Still Softimage is no more, so something must have gone terribly wrong. It’s not just disinterest by the potential client, failed marketing and such. There’s always two sides to every story and I am still only hearing one.

[Pooby]

Its important to understand that they aren't free to say whatever they like. Of course they will toe the AD line to a large degree.
I think there is little to be gained from questioning them, as they will find answers that are technically correct from their perspective, but dont answer anything that we really want to know.

[angus_davidson]

Its important to understand that they aren't free to say whatever they like. Of course they will toe the AD line to a large degree.
I think there is little to be gained from questioning them, as they will find answers that are technically correct from their perspective, but dont answer anything that we really want to know.

Sadly thats been the position all along.

[Hirazi Blue]

@Pooby - I agree, but, as a matter of principle, not getting the answers doesn't necessarily mean that the questions shouldn't be asked...
;)

[Pooby]

sure, no real harm in asking, but I feel its just going to result in endless circles in which they think we are not listening, and we think they're not telling the whole picture.

[FXDude]

I think bellsey is arguing that people in the field gave it their best shot. That's all fine and noble of them, but the focus of the marketing was on the Suite. This is not you misunderstanding or misappreciating the marketing.

From the very beginning, everyone knew it was bad news, but no one knew how bad.
(turned out to be how it's been)

"We did what we could" (?) to anyone who's been even remotely following, could immediately tell that's a bunch of crock.

The thing could have just as well done instant rendering, fully automated rigging or whatever,
and it still would've got the same treatment (or no treatment) to then get the same fate.

It started with high suspicion, then the confirmations just kept-on coming ti'l the final blow.

How anyone can defend such a position is beyond me.

[Bullit]

Go for SolidWorks or Catia.

And there are many more MCAD applications than that.

"We did what we could" (?) to anyone who has been following only add insult to injury.

Yep, as if they asked any community participation or focus.

[luceric]

I think bellsey is arguing that people in the field gave it their best shot. That's all fine and noble of them, but the focus of the marketing was on the Suite. This is not you misunderstanding or misappreciating the marketing.

From the very beginning, everyone knew it was bad news, but no one knew how bad.
(turned out to be how it's been)

"We did what we could" (?) to anyone who's been even remotely following, could immediately tell that's a bunch of crock.

The thing could have just as well done instant rendering, fully automated rigging or whatever,
and it still would've got the same treatment (or no treatment) to then get the same fate.

It started with high suspicion, then the confirmations just kept-on coming ti'l the final blow.

How anyone can defend such a position is beyond me.

It has been cloudy since 2008, but FYI I'm just as surprised as you that this EOL announcement is happening this year. So don't interpret any of my comments here or on the mailing list as defence, or even explanation, of this decision. The ball is in Autodesk to explain all of this; the webinar is starting soon

[FXDude]

I think bellsey is arguing that people in the field gave it their best shot.
That's all fine and noble of them, but the focus of the marketing was on the Suite ...

Sorry i think that sort-of sounded to me like defending the fact that little attention has been put forth.
But maybe did I misinterpret or jump the gun. And if so, my bad.

But my point is it wasn't necessarily concerning you,
but whoever might have suggested or supported "we did our best", cause that's just incredible.

[McNistor]

[...] FYI I'm just as surprised as you that this EOL announcement is happening this year. [...]

You were expecting it much sooner, huh?

[angus_davidson]

He just didnt want to give me a Mac version ;)

Well the Webinar hit a technical Hitch , is it working for anyone again ?

[Unaided]

Better is no more promotion for Autodicks from internet users. Too, lock and erase any link to its products from underground internet. Piracy was Autodicks army to popularize its products, and continue doing.
No more ilegal links avaiables to download adsk software. This is how Autodicks will be die.