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Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 30 May 2012, 21:31
by Hirazi Blue
Looking at the second video I hardly see anything that would make this product a viable competitor in this Autodesk world. Nice software, no doubt, but nothing earth-shattering, nothing that will have AD developers or execs tremble in their boots.
I can (and secretly even hope to be) mistaken, though...
;)

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 30 May 2012, 21:51
by Kzin
yep, its hard to say, it all comes down how good the renderer will be and how good the data management will be. change things while working on projects is basic, how will this work with clarisse without ot create to much overhead?

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 31 May 2012, 17:47
by McNistor
A bit cheesy presentation - with all "what you want", "the way you want" - but great music. I wonder who is the artist/band that created it.

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 31 May 2012, 20:40
by iamVFX
I like the concept of rendering and compositing at the same time. Too bad for me that Softimage Illusion is dead now and mental ray integration has no progressive rendering feature
Hirazi Blue wrote:I hardly see anything that would make this product a viable competitor in this Autodesk world.
After some work with SI 2013 release I see every student that can be viable competitor to Autodesk now :D

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 31 May 2012, 23:42
by McNistor
iamVFX wrote:After some work with SI 2013 release I see every student that can be viable competitor to Autodesk now :D
What?

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 11:43
by gfxman
Some of these ideas, where in softimage 5 years ago, with the fx compositor, the render region etc etc.
Then Avid get in trouble, and autodesk come: and now we got the crow fx and the new "high quality" ( :)) ) viewport ad new features.
I'm glad to see some real, REAL, innovation here. Hope they got it to work.

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 06 Jun 2012, 13:39
by Lord Futzi Voldemort
Clarisse is more a competitor to relight from bakery or foundrys katana, not softimage.

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 06 Jun 2012, 21:32
by Hirazi Blue
I agree.
A lot will no doubt depend on what they mean by their ominous statement "expect 3 to 4 digit number prices"

But more importantly, from their recent press release:
Clarisse™ iFX™, the first member of its Clarisse's high-end 3D animation software product family designed for professional CG artists. {my highlight - HB}
(Quoted from here)
Makes me wonder what goodies are still to come. Will there eventually be a Clarisse ÜberApp that lets you model, rig and everything else too. Is there still hope for a new true "generalist package"?

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 01:44
by Kerro Perro
Hah i'm suddenly reminded of "Unlimited Detail" http://unlimiteddetailtechnology.com/ remember that? =))
It should've "changed the whole industry" by now...

Not saying this is as mad as that though i was just reminded, i like the idea of compostiting and shading at the same time but i'm very dubious of these billion of polygon claims...

Btw i don't see any alpha to try out, would love to be proven wrong! ;)

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 15:54
by Hirazi Blue
Kerro Perro wrote:Hah i'm suddenly reminded of "Unlimited Detail" http://unlimiteddetailtechnology.com/ remember that? =))
It should've "changed the whole industry" by now...
Hmm, some would consider that a grave insult to the folks at Isotropix... b-(
They've stated themselves they are currently in "private beta", but we should expect to hear from them soon...
Clarisse iFX is currently being privately beta tested by professional CG artists and is scheduled for public release in Quarter 2 of 2012.
;)

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 02:50
by sbowling
Looks so much like After Effects it makes me want to vomit. After effects is easily one of the worst user interfaces I've ever used.

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 14:41
by Lord Futzi Voldemort
Hirazi Blue wrote:
Kerro Perro wrote:Hah i'm suddenly reminded of "Unlimited Detail" http://unlimiteddetailtechnology.com/ remember that? =))
It should've "changed the whole industry" by now...
Hmm, some would consider that a grave insult to the folks at Isotropix... b-(
They've stated themselves they are currently in "private beta", but we should expect to hear from them soon...
Clarisse iFX is currently being privately beta tested by professional CG artists and is scheduled for public release in Quarter 2 of 2012.
;)
Quarter 2 of 2012 ends in 4 days. I tend to measure companies by how they keep their promises.

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 15:46
by Hirazi Blue
Lord Futzi Voldemort wrote:Quarter 2 of 2012 ends in 4 days. I tend to measure companies by how they keep their promises.
Personally I wouldn't be THAT finicky. ;)
Initial release dates of completely new products do have a tendency to be postponed (slightly?). If I read it correctly, this even was a problem with Sumatra AKA XSI 1.0 back in the day. I'd start to get annoyed once Quarter 3 has come and gone without either a release or a comprehensive statement as to what went wrong...
:!!

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 05 Jul 2012, 21:22
by Hirazi Blue
Isotropix released a new Tech Preview on YouTube, FXGuide did an article on Clarisse
and Isotropix tweeted the not so helpful message
… I've heard something is coming … soon … very very soon …
(http://twitter.com/#!/isotropix)

Isotropix apparently will be "on the floor" and holding a Tech Talk
(on the 8th of August, | 3:45-4:40 pm - "Introducing Artistically Correct Rendering") at this year's Siggraph.
One can only assume (hope?) something is about to happen.
And yes, technically they're a few days late already :!! ;)

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 21:09
by Hirazi Blue
Apparently Siggraph 2012 will see the unveiling of Isotropix Clarisse. (Source)

Re: Soon: Isotropix Clarisse?

Posted: 03 Aug 2012, 23:05
by jamination
I am looking foward to seeing what this product can do (and some pricing too). Autodesk really needs a kick to the pants.