Because they are killing the product and they obviously dont say anything so they can squeeze everyone money till last release that probably gonna be the 2015 one.Nizar wrote:Bellsey, did you read anywhere the word "softimage"?
can we assume is the some for softimage? Why not one, from SI team said nothing about?
Yes I know, but the original context was around Max, and a post made on a Max site. And Frank is known to the user community.Nizar wrote:Bellsey, did you read anywhere the word "softimage"?
can we assume is the some for softimage? Why not one, from SI team said nothing about?
It's funny how almost every news somehow gets derailed into 'the death of SI' discussion ;)Maximus wrote:
Because they are killing the product and they obviously dont say anything so they can squeeze everyone money till last release that probably gonna be the 2015 one.
brudney wrote:It's funny how almost every news somehow gets derailed into 'the death of SI' discussion ;)Maximus wrote:
Because they are killing the product and they obviously dont say anything so they can squeeze everyone money till last release that probably gonna be the 2015 one.
OK, so here's my take
Honestly, killing it just like that wouldn't make any sense. As long as it generates some revenue, AD is gonna keep it alive. They seem to invest almost no money into SI's development, there's no marketing involved whatsoever and the only cost there is is the cost of team in Singapore [which is a couple of guys doing maintenance and bugfixes plus some minor features (or rather addons) in spare time].
I may be totally wrong but because the devs and AD aren't very talkative that's the impression I get. So imho SI will be kept alive prolly for a very long time with no significant improvements at all and the moment it starts generating loss will get terminated and bundled as 'SI ICE' with Maya/Max Suites (Matchmover and Toxic anyone?).
Autodesk is doing the right thing in that context. What they have done with
Naiad is add expertise about scalable, distributed, out-of-core simulation
that's also platform agnostic, which ICE is not. ICE is a module built deep
into XSI that does threaded operations on block of data that reside in XSI's
RAM and that's it. At the user group, they did a tech preview of something
called Bifrost with its GUI running in Maya, which is the standard linux studio
platform, and that's a totally a reasonable thing to do given also its
extensive SDK.
Things might make more sense if you understand that Naiad was not just a fluid
solver, it was meant to be a complete simulation framework, like Houdini. It's
not something you plug into ICE, it's an alternative to it.
They develop nothing for Maya ... only buy a plugin or a software then plug that into Maya , naiad was a node based software , how can u control that inside maya ? graph editor ? it was nice if they add that inside xsi , syflex haven't fully support for ice but its nice to work that inside ice with node graph.brudney wrote:There's a very interesting post I found (by Luc-Eric@ http://www.mail-archive.com/softimage@l ... 14036.html)
Autodesk is doing the right thing in that context. What they have done with
Naiad is add expertise about scalable, distributed, out-of-core simulation
that's also platform agnostic, which ICE is not. ICE is a module built deep
into XSI that does threaded operations on block of data that reside in XSI's
RAM and that's it. At the user group, they did a tech preview of something
called Bifrost with its GUI running in Maya, which is the standard linux studio
platform, and that's a totally a reasonable thing to do given also its
extensive SDK.
Things might make more sense if you understand that Naiad was not just a fluid
solver, it was meant to be a complete simulation framework, like Houdini. It's
not something you plug into ICE, it's an alternative to it.
as i said before , naiad is a node based software so its need a graph editor , graph editor in Maya is too messy , not user friendly as ICE , if they import all Naiad nodes inside ice i don`t need any other nodes in ice . i need a good UI for create Naiad graph.Helli wrote:Cause u mentioned syflex.
For me thats the worst example of integrating something into ice.
If you can't even read a weightmap from your object to drive a syflex paramter why would you add it then into ice in the first place. Just for the sake of having nodes in an ice tree instead of an operator ?
Have you seen Maya's Node Editor? It's pretty nice to work with already. Not as elegant as ICE yet, but definitely more than usable. I would imagine it getting better and better, especially since ex-xsi devs are on maya team now.vrMan wrote:
as i said before , naiad is a node based software so its need a graph editor , graph editor in Maya is too messy , not user friendly as ICE , if they import all Naiad nodes inside ice i don`t need any other nodes in ice . i need a good UI for create Naiad graph.
Bellsey wrote:I'm not at Siggraph and so didn't attend the meeting, though I think I have an idea of what was probably shown.
The Max guys on the forum link are venting alot, but there's alot of adding two and two together and making five.
I'm saying nothing more, though if anyone wants to pvt me, then feel free.
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