Why is AD evil?

[pluMmet]

I have been very outspoken about the horrible practices of AD and EULA's in general.

The reason is I have a grasp of the bigger problem and it just happens to effect something that is very important to me (DCC)

If anyone cares to understand what it is that is happening and why anyone should be upset about it here is your chance to understand the problem as a whole



AD removing your ability to own a perpetual license is horrible.. worse is their acquiring as many programs as possible so they can ruin them as well.

The EULA allowed AD among others to disallow resale of your license which kept the price artificially high and gave them the capital to take over more and more of the industry.

The madness continues as they want you to check in every 14 days to use your temporary allowance from them.... a product they purchased and can now dole out to you.

It is simply madness!

It's not comfortable to think you are part of something evil (we are all nice (oblivious) people) so hearing some AD employee come in and trivialize these horrors is just annoying but also completely understandable ie. Cognitive Dissonance; Group Think.

[pluMmet]

If you are lazy or too busy you can pick up the end of the video @ 1:15:00 and it will explain why the AD system is bad (though with little foundation to the problem as a whole)

If you care to counter the ideas of that last portion please be big enough to state that you only viewed that portion.

[Bullit]

Yes the companies that don't recognize differences in their clients risk, well having only one kind of clients.

[Hirazi Blue]

The main problem with evil cooperations isn't their extremely capitalistic approach to everything they do, but the way the client/customer keeps on buying/renting their products despite ongoing abuse and insults by these companies. Why are corporations evil is a valid question, but only if accompanied by the question, why is the client/customer so stupid/blind/easily fooled.

[pluMmet]

The main problem with evil cooperations isn't their extremely capitalistic approach to everything they do, but the way the client/customer keeps on buying/renting their products despite ongoing abuse and insults by these companies. Why are corporations evil is a valid question, but only if accompanied by the question, why is the client/customer so stupid/blind/easily fooled.

That is a common concept that i don't agree with... Lets look at some examples.

I Hate Windows.. Of the available OS's today Linux is by far my favorite (Amiga Workbench is my all time favorite.)

What do I loose out on if I switch from Windows.. well a quality Bitmap Editor like Photoshop or my choice PaintShop, Drivers for loads of my devices.

My choices over all are limited. Well I hate Windows but do I hate myself? Do I make my life harder?

Microsoft made developers lives easier with API's like DirectX.. They don't target the consumer directly they target the developers.

It's the same reason there are so many fast food restaurants compared to family owned quality food restaurants.

A person can open a good quality restaurant, work hard and make a nice living feeding people or they can open a MacDonalds.. hire a manager let MacDonalds do most of the work and in a few years open another 2 locations and if they are really on their game 5 more within 3 more years.

So here you are living your life going place to place and you can take a chance on a restaurant you have never heard of and maybe get some really good food but maybe not or you can go with what you are sure you will get at MacDonalds.. besides you are in a hurry and your kids are driving you nuts. You have already driven past 3 MacDonalds and they want to get the crappy toy they need to be the same as all their class mates.

Innovation is suppressed by Monopolies... They will be happy to lie and tell you about all the good they do and cry when things don't go their way but the evidence is overwhelming that they are leeches on industry.

But who has the time to understand that? We need to grab some beer and chips and go catch the 'Game" and just forget all the problems we have during the week.

Another false notion is that power corrupts... that is true only to a limited extent. In reality the corrupt seek power.

The idea that you can hide from these individuals and not accept what they control is like putting your head in the sand.. there is no place to hide from it.

All there is is fighting the good fight and doing what you can ;)

Over 100 people have entered this thread but I doubt even a dozen will watch that video... "Not Interested", "No Time, it's on my list (not)" or "Probably a waste of time, what would it change?"

Prepackaged "truth" like prepackaged food... it's everywhere and you are busy lol

If you do find the time to watch that video Hirazi you just might think you were wrong about the "extremely capitalistic approach" you seem to think is responsible, perhaps even within the first ten minutes.

Once you take away the 4 minute intro you would probable get the idea that that AD is most likely a monopoly within 2 minutes and be sure of it within 15

[Hirazi Blue]

Well I don't deny the system is stacked against "us" end users (and I don't deny not having watched the video either ),
but as long as the end user has any choice in the matter, any claim that lessens his/her responsibility in all this is a "cop out" IMHO.
In "our" case there still is some choice but nobody seems to exercise their right to choose. All they ever do is complain how bad the situation has gotten.
;)

[pluMmet]

Here is a popular topic that you and everyone you know has a chance to understand yet less then 1% have any real notion about it



So if you can blame people for "caving" to these horrible companies then you must also condemn people for not having a handle on this topic.

If you don't hold people responsible for knowing this why don't you? If you do hold them responsible why do you think they (as a whole) don't care enough to take the time to be a responsible person/citizen.

"To inform the American public so they can make a decision on what to do about it"... who do you know has taken the time to review the info and are talking about what needs to be done?

[Hirazi Blue]

Funnily enough, I did see this already and I even think I "got" it, but I think it's best for me to shut up now, this is getting too political too fast... I'm out.

[pluMmet]

Well if Snowden is too controversial a topic then the first video link is not for you as it is much more core as related to understanding the problems of this world...

And this you should never look at because it is even more core

Moderator edit: I am tempted to close this thread: tone it down and try to keep it remotely topical (for the si-community) - HB

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Thank you,
your "www.si-community.com" team ;-)

I enjoyed for years this community because if its acceptance of divergent views. But this is going too far in the political, bordeline offensive and extremist side and I must object. Not every body accept this view of the world.

Please Administrator, close this thread.

Kindly, DB.

[pluMmet]

Just a lot of noise I suppose, sorry for the trouble.

Closing the thread is fine w/me.

[luchifer]

Before closing the thread, I just want to add, I dont see Autodesk more or less evil than Microsoft. Its just a bigger company than Maxon or The Foundry or SideFX, wich basically makes them an evil company in the eyes of the user. Im sure all the brands I mention buy plugins and technology all the time, and they get canned too (lightwave someday?), or they purchase plugins but get badly implement (only god knows why a simple plugin like solo selection in C4D ended unusable), or are just forgotten (Im looking at you C4D bodypaint).

In fact, In XSI theres a lot of tools that never got implemented or were badly done (In my eyes: Text tool and curve creation just plain suck, and of course the non existant in house fluid solver in XSI).

Anyway, does it really matter if my hammer or my pencil was forged in the deep hells of the underworld?

[pluMmet]

Before closing the thread, I just want to add, I dont see Autodesk more or less evil than Microsoft. Its just a bigger company than Maxon or The Foundry or SideFX, wich basically makes them an evil company in the eyes of the user. Im sure all the brands I mention buy plugins and technology all the time, and they get canned too (lightwave someday?), or they purchase plugins but get badly implement (only god knows why a simple plugin like solo selection in C4D ended unusable), or are just forgotten (Im looking at you C4D bodypaint).

In fact, In XSI theres a lot of tools that never got implemented or were badly done (In my eyes: Text tool and curve creation just plain suck, and of course the non existant in house fluid solver in XSI).

Anyway, does it really matter if my hammer or my pencil was forged in the deep hells of the underworld?

You have not grasped the point of the conversation at all..

It's not what can the tool do or not do... it's what price does it extract.

I'm guessing you have not pondered why any of this is harmful?