STAY SAFE, SANE & HEALTHY!!!

[Hirazi Blue]

Slightly off topic I admit, but a very important message in these trying times...

[gaboraa]

Hard times indeed. Please stay safe and stay indoors if possible until this pandemic bites the dust. Hope it will pass as fast as possible

[Grims]

True! Stay safe friends during this tough period.

[rray]

Thanks, same to you! !

About the sane part, it seems important for everyone to be able to communicate during these days, too - so our little XSI board could be of some use here, too.

[Hirazi Blue]

Special deal: quick-fire rounds: 3D answers (or mindmaps) within 24 hours...

[FXDude]

( EDIT: Removed dupe paragraphs left form reordering )

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Things I worry about apart from the virus

Despite more than a week of people visibly being super careful and scared,
( while on TV, it's as if everyone were licking handrails )

this while i'm sure everything is also locked down and everyone careful is the same across Europe and everywhere....,


Any waiting line I saw were super spread-out, people haven't been going out much if at-all,
with everything pretty-much closed except supermarkets, pharmacies...

But despite everyone's vigilance, all countries exponential curves pitch barely at-all budged,
and remain just as steep everywhere,
-- except China who quickly executed super drastic measures (as an ultra-authoritarian regime would do).

Maybe it's just a time delay,
or increased detection rates offsetting (exactly)
the often otherwise almost perfectly smooth and exponential new cases curves.

But weather or not the curves are accurate or made to look like that,

I fear that all this may be used as a way or a first step, or practice,
for everywhere to become more like China,
or for societies worldwide to become progressively more authoritarian (like a new normal),
or for everyone to become yet further controlled,
... to date, actually way more than when 9/11 happened.

I fear that the 2 weeks will become 3-4-... weeks,
or that it will relax, while always being in the background as constant lingering threats to be used to advance agendas,

at any of which point I think we should all be asking some serious questions about what is presented to us.
(if not seriously asking questions right now).

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Perhaps is it prevention measures,
but by their own numbers,

it's --at least currently-- like less than ~1 in 20 million of -contracting- it,
let alone dying from it, and this, most of everywhere.
( talk about an 'invisible enemy' )

Like at least for now, you'd have better chances buying a lottery ticket .

Representatives admit that rarely, but they do admit it,
it's what they use to roll back some of the fear getting propagated non-stop,
but lock-up measures, alarm levels, and -mediatic persistance-,
-- are all as if people were dropping like flies in the streets.


These odds, while seeing more than a few well known people (sports stars,
politicians) either having it, or they're spouse having it.(like wow.. what are the odds)

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In the midsts of the Swine flu in the mid-nineties,
did it have a quickly climbing 100,000... 250,000 -death- count
( compared to the current ~18,000 worldwide )

it had a much slower starting curve, but becoming just as steep if not steeper than Corona,
( in the middle part, and for a couple of months )
except with 20 times higher death rates,
that, while I and most of everyone barely remembers Swine flu,
apart from maybe the name ringing bells,
*** and definitely no sudden world/regime changing measures while ringing all alarm bells.

For a bit of perspective..
** DEATHS IN 2020 AS OF YET :**
21 000 COVID-19
66,059 mothers trying to give birth
103,869 seasonal FLU
209,636 malaria
229,184 suicides
288,502 Automotive accidents
534,538 Alcool
1,068,402 smoking
1,624,510 children less than 5 years old
1,755,279 Cancer
2,016,012 coronary heart failures
and 2,088,506 hunger


This time..... full lockdown... everywhere, with no cases to be seen in the real world.

Not to mention.. currently all nations militaires being all pointed towards their own citizens,
and/or other countries....

In France, you can't go up mountains or go in the woods (to not infect birds?) ,
and there are controllers that check papers (what do papers do?) at every corner in busier cities.


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Otherwise, If it's a prevention measure, fine.

Except... I think we have to keep in mind that when personal freedoms are taken away,
they tend to be very hardly given back.

Maybe freedoms will be like taxes, like taking alot while giving a bit of change back. (relaxing a little)

But the trouble is, in general, the less freedoms general people have,
the more leverage people of power gain, and it can sort of never be enough,
( alot like money actually )

and is often the point of restricting all kinds of freedoms ( always for very good reasons )


Like ALL of the controls/restrictions put in place in 2001 and beyond, are ALL still in effect.

While most of those measures involved, extra controls at airports or beefed-up security/surveillance everywhere,
they at least didn't too much impede on regular daily lives otherwise,
and NONE of those measures compare to what is happening right now.

Except now we are talking about at least 'supposedly temporary' global restrictions of practically ALL freedoms,
which could easily end up being much more REAL to everyone than any invisible threats.

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Weather or not the cases or death rate curves are accurate ( all pointing to doing / becoming more like China ),
or if these curves are like devices aiming to point towards what to do,

if this stays,
( like 2 weeks incrementally becoming 3-4 years... because of good reasons at each increment )
then people of power would gain like the most ultimate power ever,
( often what people of power are after the most )
and would then like essentially completely dominate a then totally totalitarian earth ( for our "protection" ).

Also, usually the first thing that happens when something is very wrong,
is the gathering of people which happens to be the very exact thing that became like a big no-no,

as well as direct ( and unmonitored talk) which should totally still go on while keeping distances...


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Also, like 9/11 was the basis and justification of so many actions,
you can again see leaders being kind-of all excited again about various mobilisations,
with the military, FEMA (also being militarized police) all being at full steam and brewing,
except this time focused on us (everyone), while being fully treated like a mega-universal 9/11.

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Also the right wing news is putting alot of blame on China which is another thing making me feel rather uneasy.

Nobody would truly want a US/China war, because there would be no 'winners' (except for bankers)

Also some people talk about "environmentalists", but nobody talks about 'philanthropists'.

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From maybe around mid-1700's on,
or from whenever entire countries started owing entire national debts to the same bankers,

or from the point when money itself (whatever can be commonly recognized as exchangeable for goods/services)
became exclusively brought into existence as temporary loans (to be payed back),
being when any industrialized nation (governments)
essentially became like tools for making -war games- between each other,

With maybe not all, but ALOT of entire situations or triggring events being either staged or provoked,
which we only -sometimes- find-out some 50-100 years later.


For banks, nothing is more profitable than war.
Any involved nation will borrow as much as can be borrowed,
and will dump everything into that (super expensive war machinery/infrastructure...)

Otherwise it's not just countries (governments) that owe everything to baners,
ALL money is OWED, and all already pre-owNed from it's very inception.

('currency' of arbitrarily adjustable value relative to other currencies and with alot of strings attached).

And this could very well be like a world takover from behind, that started 300 years ago.

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There is also alot of revolving doors between corporations (all about themselves and money)
and governments (also often all about themselves money beyond beautiful words) ,

Sometimes they ARE each other,
and any big war mostly have nothing to do with people either fighting them
(on the field or remotely by pressing buttons),
or otherwise getting affected by them,
all wars are faught for few groups at the top.

And the higher you go up hierarchies,
the more corrupt people tend to be. (power being naturally very corrupting by default)

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Also, how much money do you have on you?


Because while banks hold most of everyone's money,
it's the banks money until you withdraw it.

Do you think they would let all that money just sit there in accounts?

All money in bank accounts is invested and used, or used as collateral until withdrawn,
only what is withdrawn overall on average (with some wiggle-room is actually available.

And in the event of a crash, all or most money goes back to the source
( then becoming inaccessible, it was never anyone's money to begin with )

So in a sense, crashes can be like payback time of all loaned money (all money)
while the world economic system is made to be like temporary bubbles on top of bubbles,
on top of bigger less temporary bubbles.

When bubbles pop, if the moment and approximate scope of popping is known before hand,
not only do very-very-big investors not loose money, but is like the exact opposite,
all value does not disappear or vanish, it is merely all indirectly transferred.

The value of money being all relative to how much money is had in general,
crashes can be the biggest opportunities for orgs beyond a certain size.

And for such people, if a crash happens naturally (unexpectedly),
then it's considered like a wasted crash,
AND they also loose tons of money just like everyone else.

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They were heavily promoting and very carelessly handing-out loans for houses,
and it's quite easy to sell free money.

Banks wanted the actual houses with little concern about money.
(wanted what actually had value beyond paper.)
and wanted the resulting expected massive bailouts for the whole system to not implode,
(also like right now)

Also about philanthropists I remember a speech by Bill Gates about overpopulation problems,
and possible measures to reduce populations, while talking about vaccines in the same speech.

And I also remember a speech by Rockefeller a long time ago about world population
relative to world resources (almost like Thanos), and it was super creepy.
So any of this, better not be about any of that.


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Anyhow... right now... why do we need MILLIONS of gas masks,
the message has been MORE RESPIRATORS! which are essentially like gas masks.
Or THOUSANDS of beds for what is essentially to date described as being essentially like the common cold.
And why are the Qtips special swabs with stuff on it, if it's to GET samples,
rather that to APPLY ... samples.

In these incredible circumstances, even the TESTS became like a big risk,
and if I were you, I wouldn't take unnecessary risks, if I would get a regular cold,
I would do as if I was infected, and would go through it like a regular cold.

---> if I were you, I WOULDN'T GET A TEST


Even if you don't have a cold at all... Stay home for like a month,
don't go out even for groceries, this way it would be SURE that you didn't get or give anything to/from anyone.
not even because of the virus, which is to date is like a cold
( if not BEING the common cold, renamed after a beer brand )
but just to be yet more confident that you don't need any testing.

if you've been home for 2 weeks or more without contact, you dont need any test,
because it's then basically -impossible- that you got, or transmitted anything,

If you get tested anyways, rub a TON of any sort of alcohol where the tipped Qtip was applied,
and/or litterally snif vodka not just the fumes but the liquid, it would be the worst experience of your life,
but it would be to reduce the risk of really needing all the beds that they ordered.

Because the gigantic mass of equiment and the thousands of beds,
is not in preparation for what to date, just happens to be exactly like regular flu.


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I also worry about police if things would become more difficult.
Alot (most?) of them are good people. But some mentalities are embedded in standard training.

They should be trained to not have egos, and to really only use force as a very last measure,
but it's not like that at all, excessive (non-necessary) brutality happens very very often..
and that was in regular times.

But you can't blame them, it's actually like part of protocols (I'm sure the fear factor is also part of that).

A long time ago, I've seen troops of policemen charge a bunch of protesters with sticks or whatever else,
pinning them to the floor with their knees...

They were not at-all expecting such a reaction, they were just like walking around picketing with their sign-posts,
maybe they weren't suppose to be there, but wow!

Also, FEMA is alot of doctors and nurses, but is also like a military (and militarized) division
with large proportions of population control personnel (basically like lots of police)

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Otherwise, depending on how things turn-out, If there is to be some sort of revolution,
it should be an ENTIRELY PACIFIC revolution, even when faced with absolute brute force.

Otherwise for most, it would involve 'just' not falling for manipulation tactics,
which can actually be quite difficult, we typically believe 'trusted' television .

If not, it would be better if the whole planet became like China,
rather than anything that might come out of a revolution which would not be ENTIRELY pacific,
at least on the part of people, we would be finished from the start,
ultraviolent response measures would be justified
and they are just waiting for everyone to do like in star wars,
(or other action movies)

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In any event , precautions and vigilance MUST extend well beyond the virus,
and this, even if everything about this situation is already super-scary, crazy, and weird,

While taking everything TV says with a ginormous grain of salt.

And whatever happens, remaining always as respectfully critical,
aware, brave, conscious, thoughtful, objective, and as fully civil and pacific humans,
as we are all able to, and moslty already are... especially in such moments of very high tension,
overlapping crisees and otherwise rather crazy situations.

Staying strong (finding it in ourselves because we all have it),
staying positive no matter what, and keeping it together with a good sense of humor,
is propbably the most important thing in unusually tough times.

( please spread-it around (the world) while it's still possible... everything is happening super-fast! )

 

[Hirazi Blue]

Wow, that got too political way too fast....

[Grims]

Longest post I ever saw!

[FXDude]

Sorry, I wouldn't have posted if I didn't think it was true... but I'm pretty sure that it is..

Think Autodesk retiring XSI x 100,000,000,000,000

[Hirazi Blue]

I understand you believe it to be true, that wasn't the point I was trying to make.
I just meant to say that I hadn't expected this thread to become so political all of a sudden...
That's also why I don't comment on individual issues raised in your post
although I most definitively have my own ideas about them..

[FXDude]

No prob, I also spaced it out better, and things, I was kinda shaking while writing.

[talent103]

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[gaboraa]

Things I worry about apart from the virus

To be honest, I used chatGPT to summarise your post

[blaxxun]

I did not notice a difference in my lifestyle while covid happened.